The Moonie FAQ !


Warning ! This FAQ is cynical, sarcastic and contains humour. Its author
will be called a bigot, communist, nazi - probably several of these.

It is available on http://home.snafu.de/tilman/faq-you/moonies.txt (Who's computer is this?)

Change history:
3.11.1999: Added more on the driving principle
4.7.2001: Added statement of Ang's sister
14.12.2001: Removed (37), the "players list"


1. What is this newsgroup (alt.religion.unification) for ?
2. Who is Moon ?
3. What about calling them "Moonies" ?
4. Since they have decided that the M-word is defamatory, why not
follow that rule as a form of respect ?
5. What is a "Moonie front group" ?
6. Did I hear "Washington Times" ?
7. What are the arguments about front groups and deceptive recruiting ?
8. What reactions did *not* come from Moonies about deceptive
recruiting ?
9. What about "Unification" ?
10. Is the UC christian ?
11. Is Sun Myung Moon a reverend ?
12. How often was Moon married ?
13. Wait a minute ! Is Moon a bigamist ?
14. Will Moonies believe that there is a connection to him being freed
from jail and the K-War ?
15. What is the big problem with the CARP newspaper ?
16. What debate techniques are used by the Moonies ?
17. What happens when Moon dies ?
18. What happens after Moon died ?
19. What is "heavenly deception" ?
20. Is Moon a convicted felon ?
21. What arguments are used about his trial ?
22. What about George Bush Sr.?
23. Who is Steve Hassan ?
24. What's the joke with "Merchant of Chaos" ?
25. Who is Andy Bacus ?
26. What about those mass marriages ?
27. What about sex ?
28. Scientology and the UC as bedfellows - it this for real ?
29. What about the M16 gun plant ?
30. What about the "Master Speaks" quotes ?
31. Who wrote the "divine principle" ?
32. What's the best newsreader for Windows ?
33. What about that movie ?
34. What is "The driving principle" ?
38. Any books ?
39. Humour
40. What about the Holy Handkerchiefs?
41. Is there a place for love in the Moon organisation?
50. Where can I get information on the internet ?
51. Where can I get information off the internet ?


1. What is this newsgroup (alt.religion.unification) for ?

Discussing the "Unification Church", commonly known as "The Moonies".
The Moonies are not really a "Church" or a religion, rather a huge
right-wing movement, with hundreds of front groups. The UC is just the
religious arm of the movement.


2. Who is Moon ?

Sun Myung Moon = Founder of the Moon movement and South Korean
industrialist.


3. What about calling them "Moonies" ?

They were called such, and called themselves such. They wore buttons
"Moonie and proud of it". But after Moon went to jail, they made a PR
change. Now they are "persecuted", and someone who calls them "Moonies"
is considered a bigot.

One argument against using the M-word is that no white would call a
black "nigger" just because the blacks call themselves so for fun. But
that argument forgets that the Moonies *started* to call themselves so,
while the blacks didn't.

A newspaper (Chicago Tribune) called them "petal pushers".

Craig Maxim <craigmaxim@bigfoot.com>:

As recently as six years ago , when I was a member , the
Unification Church's own giftshops sold coffee mugs (my mother
has two of them !) which boast "I'm a Moonie and proud of it !"

http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/cup.html (Who's computer is this?)

Interesting is that there are a lots of texts online where Moon uses the
word. To find them, go to www.unification.net search engine and enter
the word.

Here a few good ones:

But Mother is the most obedient Moonie I have ever seen.
Even if everyone else betrays me, I know she will still
be my ardent follower.


My entire life can be described by one phrase: it has been
a life in the shadows. Always I have been misunderstood and
persecuted. I was the first Moonie and all of you are the
contemporary Moonies. When I look at you I envy you very much;
you are so free. Compared to the way I lived in my early days,
you are literally living in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Be a Moonie. Love the world.

[According to Craig Maxim, the quote above is also mentioned in a book
on Religious Observances that the Moonies use as a guideline for correct
worshipping: "The Tradition", Chapter 4, Page 36]

The true Moonies are the ones who are walking all six continents
with dignity no matter what people say. To be a proud Moonie you
must know the true definition of a Moonie. He is the one who can
go to his parents and proudly say, "Father, Mother, I'm a
Moonie. If you love me, you will listen to why I have joined the
Unification Church." That person will have the power to inspire
his parents to become Moonies also. He is a true Moonie.

God loves Moonies.

Regardless of what others may say, we are happy people, aren't
we? Aren't you proud to live this way of life? The term "Moonie"
refers only to the formation stage. "Sunnie" is the growth
stage. Perfection stage people will be called "Kingies." In the
perfection stage, you will become a messiah.


4. Since they have decided that the M-word is defamatory, why not
follow that rule as a form of respect ?

Respect has to be mutual. Calling critics "bigots" is traditional
name-calling but calling germans (well, me) "nazis" either directly or
thru innuendo won't help. There is no need to libel someone for nothing.


5. What is a Moonie front group ?

A group that acts as a recruiting front the Moonies, without usually
telling it. Well-known are CARP, CAUSA, WfWP. Lesser known is e.g.
"Won-Hwa-Do", the Moonie flavor of Karate. Some groups are not directly
recruiting people, but promote Moon's conservative ideas, like the
Washington Times. But they get fed Moon's money. In 1992, Moon has
acknoledged of "putting close to $1,000,000,000 during the last 10
years." Others just do secular business.

See a few here:
http://www.unification.net/activities/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.trancenet.org/moonism/uclist.htm (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Unification-Church/moonlist.txt (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.tiac.net/users/shassan/moonfronts.html (Who's computer is this?)


Here a list of fronts, organisations and companies on the web:

http://www.worldfamily.org/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.tparents.org (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.vasia.com/ucrp (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.familyfed.org/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.religiousfreedom.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.wcsf.org/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.truefamilies.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.purelove.org/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.purelove.org/founders.html (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.religiousfreedom.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.worldcarp.inter.net/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://web.idirect.com/~family/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://web.idirect.com/~wfwp/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://futurerealm.com/hrt_toc.htm (Who's computer is this?)
http://futurerealm.com/peterbio.htm (Who's computer is this?)
http://wtne-sales.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.sunmoon.ac.kr/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://worldcommunity.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.bridgeport.edu/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.ettl.co.at/uc/activities/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.WashTimes-Weekly.com (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.washtimes.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.iijnet.or.jp/IHCC/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://afcomm.com/afc/afchome.html (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.worldandi.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.uts.edu/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.sandiego.sisna.com/hsa/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.bekkoame.or.jp/~j-carp/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.cyberway.com.sg/~ilhwagin/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/ascfkcmo/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.kahr.com (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.shooters.com/kahr (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.tongil.or.kr/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.bridgeport.edu/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.pwpa.org/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.sunmoon.ac.kr/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://afcomm.com/afc/afchome.html (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.uts.edu/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.bekkoame.or.jp/~j-carp/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.j-net.co.jp/FFWP/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.kj.org/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.ic-net.or.jp/home/yfwp/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.hsabooks.com (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.vasia.com/ucrp/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.new-hope-farm.com.br/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.insight-mag.com (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.kirovballet.com/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.matchingservice.org (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.auto-ordnance.com (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.wewillstand.org (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.idealspouse.com (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.irff-europe.org (Who's computer is this?)


6. Did I hear "Washington Times" ?

Yes. But don't confuse it with the legendary "Washington Post" or the
"New York Times". The WT is a conservative newspaper financed by Moon.
If a smear article can't make it into the mainstream press, it gets
printed in the WT. If you want to fight the "liberals", apply there for
a job.


7. What are the arguments about front groups and deceptive recruiting ?

The following are actual Moonie arguments that came up, with my
comments.

This doesn't exist, because of Moon's statement:

"Proclaim to the world, "I am a proud member for the Unification
Church. That means I am a child of the True Parents." Don't try
to hide that relationship. Anyone who takes a hiding place is
automatically inviting the invasion of Satan. Do you understand?
From now on you must say proudly, "I am a proud child of True
Parents. Satan cannot touch me." Make up your mind about this.
Can you do it, or not? Anybody who can do this, raise your hands
high. Beautiful!"

Allegation by Mike Doughney:
"There were flyers for CARP that didn't mention Moon or the UC."

A giant debate followed.

Argument 1:
"CARP is not equal to the UC"

Comment:
CARP is just a sham, and it does teach Moon's "divine
principle".

A2: "The UMC doesn't mention the founder, and the republican party
doesn't do it either"

C:This doesn't apply here. The point is to disclose what the
movement is about. In this case it is Moon and his Unification
Church.

A3: "The flyers I have mention Moon"

C:Sure, if it was to advertise for Moon speaking tour. Besides, I
am not talking about flyers with his name, but about those
without.

A4: "I have my affiliation in my sig"

C:Fine. But I did never accuse *you*.

A5: "Deception was done in the past by single members"

C:Too bad it is still done today.

A6: "The whining about deception comes from former member
Steve Hassan. In his book he shows that he did the deception
himself"

C:This is really *low*. Steve Hassan was one of the best members,
he worked with Moon personally. Moon even gave him gifts.

A7: "Who died and named you the rule-maker ?"
"These are separate organisations".

C:Well, now suddenly the rules are changed. Well these
organisations may be different on paper, but they were founded
by Moon, and serve as recruiting front. The is also called
"debate by redefinition", i.e. suddenly changing its own
position after being caught.

A8: "You may not use Moon's rules to attack us, since you are not
a Moonie yourself"

C:Sure I can. I just show that an organisation sets rules, but
doesn't follow them. Preaching water and secretly drinking wine.

A9: "CARP is well-known as a Moon organisation"
C: How could it be "well-known" if they don't tell their
affiliation ? How would Moonies know what non-Moonies know ?

Amazing is that this argument came from a software developper,
i.e. a person who should know more about logic.

A10: "I have been beaten up twice one day because I was a Moonie".
C: While this is very sad, it is no excuse for deception. There
are simple methods to prevent being beaten up, e.g. learn
self-defense, or always going in pairs.



8. What reactions did *not* come from Moonies about deceptive
recruiting ?

No Moonie ever said: "That was not right. I will immediatetely phone the
CARP group to stop that. Because Moon did say 'Don't try to hide that
relationship'. I am sorry."

Instead, the Moonies tried all sort of bogus arguments, even redefining
their own rules.

I suggested the following quote for street recruiting:

"Hello, my name is John, I am a member of the Unification
Church. My I invite you to a seminar ?"

The answer was the usual "who died and appointed you the rule-maker"
quote.

Here a recent example of deceptive recruiting (thanks to
jeb@ingress1.murdoch.edu.au):

One shining example of deceptive recruiting is found in the
Dec. 1993 Unification News. The writer tells us how to
recruit creatively by placing ad's in local papers. He placed
an ad which stated "Meet your ideal mate, find an Asian
bride..." He then goes on to say "The first time I placed the
Ideal Mate ad, I had 15 calls or leads. From that initial
response we are now teaching the divine principle to three
students."


9. What about "Unification" ?

It's a sham. Just a method of saying "I want everyone to follow me". Not
really new.


10. Is the UC christian ?

No. Damian Anderson said that the UC is not a christian religion. Later
he revised his statement and said it is not a "sect of christianity".
I even say it is anti-christian. The "JC failed and Moon continues his
work" is not liked by christians. I'd say Moon qualifies as a false
prophet. Where would we be if every John Smith steps on stage and says:
"I'm the real guy, forget JC" ?

That the UC calls itself "... unification of world christianity" is just
one of the many lies brought in the name of "Freedom of religion".
Because "unification" means "unification under Moon", and not what some
might think "all christians unite get together with their christian
peers".

I therefore submitted an entry to Yahoo for the "official" web site of
the Moonies with the text "Holy Association for the Moonification of
World Christianity". Yahoo accepted it and it stayed some time, before
Moonies noticed :-)

See the true colors of Moon, regarding Christianity:

"Christians are all adopted children, not true children of God.
Jesus and the Lord of the Second Advent are God's true sons.
They are in Abel's position. The adopted children are in Cain's
position. Adopted children still have the right to receive the
inheritance if they take the right procedure".
(Master Speaks 2, page 9.)

"Until our mission with the Christian church is over, we must
quote the Bible and use it to explain the Divine Principle.
After we receive the inheritance of the Christian church, we
will be free to teach without the Bible".
(Master Speaks 7, page 1.)

"As Christians we prayed in the name of the Father, the Son
and the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit. Now we should pray in the
name of the True Parents".
(Master Speaks 3, page 2.)

The accuracy of these quotes was confirmed by UC member Ed Poor,
edmund.poor@computerconcepts.com: "I can only confirm that they sound
like something Rev. Moon would say, and that IMHO they are consistent
with UC teachings" and even more by Steven Martin <Martin*@nni.com> who
even posted longer excerpts.

This has not been answered, but I guess that in islamic countries, he
represents himself as the guy who continues Mohammed's work; in Buddhist
countries as the guy who continues Buddha's work. Sure is (it comes from
dfeff@aol.com a former CARP director) that a version of the DP was
published a few years ago which uses the *Muslim* scriptures. Ed Poor
says that this version was from an individual member and later
retracted.

According to Catherine Hampton <xzm@hrweb.org> who is one moderator of
soc.religion.islam, Damian has claimed that Unification Church was
Islamic, therefore his moonie propaganda should be posted there.


11. Is Sun Myung Moon a reverend ?

No. He was expelled from the presbyterian Church in 1948. He never
graduated from any theological faculty, nor was he ever ordained.

[Thomas Gandow: "Mun Bewegung" p. 21,24]


12. How often was Moon married ?

1: 1945 - 1955 Choe Song Gil
2: 1948 Kim Yong On
3: 1955 - 1959 Kim Myung Hee
4: 1960 - now Hak Ja Han

[Gandow p. 147, citing Rüdiger Hauth]

A text from an early Moonie about the first wife can be found here:

http://www.unification.net/fcolf/fcolf-21.html (Who's computer is this?)

It shows that Moon simply left her alone for years to do his cult
business.

According to dfeff@aol.com (About #3): "they were apparently not legally
married but intended to be"

Damian Anderson about #2:

I think you are mistaken about Kim Young Oon. You misspelled her name.
I knew her quite well. She was better known in the West as Dr. Young
Oon Kim, and she was never Rev. Moon's wife. She was a professor of
Unification Theology at the Unification Theelogical Seminary until
she took ill and went to live for her final days in Korea before
her passing in September 1989. I was a student of hers at UTS
from 1982 to 1984. She was the author of several books, and one
of the first three Unification missionaries to the USA, along
with David Sang Chul Kim and Col. Bo Hi Pak.

Dan Fefferman about #3:

Ask Dan Fefferman, if you don't believe me. Moon has had adultery with a
young college student named Myung Hee Kim. Moon has admitted this, he had a
child from the adultery which died in a train accident. This is not our
"guess" this is fact. Moon confirmed this to Dan Fefferman as well.

Of course Rob fails to mention that the woman was an adult and that SMM was in
his early or mid 30s, and this happened in the mid 1950s before Rev Moon had
even established the UC, or that his first wife had already left him and filed
for divorce. But yes, Myung Hee Kim is the mother of Rev Moon's second son Hee
Jin, who died in a train accident in the late 60s and was officially
aknowledeged as Rev Moon's son. Myung Hee Kim is a very well known member of
the UC in Korea. She is currently president of Sun Moon University in Korea.

13. Wait a minute ! Is Moon a bigamist ?

Yes. Because of a plaint of the real husband (!) of Mrs. Moon#2, he was
thrown to jail (got 5 years), and Mrs. Moon#2 got 10 months in 1948. He
was freeded in the Korean war.

[Gandow p. 24]

According to dfeff@aol.com: "wives often stayed at the church center
overnight for prayer vigils -- and the husbands grew jealous enough to
go to the police".

The german government booklet says that some sources say that the bigamy
allegation was dropped later.


14. Will Moonies believe that there is a connection to him being freed
from jail and the K-War ?

Yes. Moonies believe that the Korean war broke out to free Moon. A
classical "post-hoc" fallacy.

[Gandow p. 24]

Ed Poor <edpoor@mailexcite.com> disputes this, and says that it is the
position of the church only that the air strike that freed Sun-Myung
Moon from Heung-Nam Prison Camp was divinely inspired -- not the whole
war.



15. What is the big problem with the CARP newspaper ?

The paper is not soft enough and full of ink.



16. What debate techniques are used by the Moonies ?

a) Kim Baker's evaluation
The following text written by Kim Baker did originally apply to
alt.religion.scientology, but one could see quickly that it applies to
many newsgroups.

There are several recognised techniques getting the person
furious. I have personally observed it. These may sound like no
big deal, but take a moment to think about it - they're so
simple, but they work every time, if the person is not aware of
them.

- Ignore completely what a person is saying.

- Twist what they say to make it sound like something else,
and stick to that - the person will get furious at being
permanently misunderstood.

- Take what the person says, and make nothing of it

- Interrupt a person constantly while they are trying to say
something - in an electronic medium, that would mean snipping
the text and focusing on some obscure point, and not the basic
gist of the message.

Now before you laugh, think well on those. Try it in a
conversation with a friend, and watch them froth.

b) "out of context"

When someone gets a text that is not contested, they will scream "out of
context" or "he didn't mean that".

out of context:
The "context" will be that no one is allowed to judge Moonie scriptures
who isn't involved, e.g. because Moon has an experience for decades and
an outside person hasn't a clue.

he didn't mean that:
A pathetical attempt to redefine the words that are exposing the Moon
organisation for what they are.

c) "no critic is qualified anyway"
c1) Johnny Skeptic
not credible, because he wasn't in the movement

c2) Johnny Journalist
not credible. He is paid to write on it, and the press is biased
anyway

c3) Johnny Ex-Member
not credible. He left because he couldn't keep up with the
high standards

c4) Johnny Bookwriter
not credible. He writes books to sell them around the world

c5) Johnny Deprogrammer
not credible. He makes money by kidnapping people out of cults

c6) Johnny Exit-Counsellor
not credible. He makes money by persuading people to drop their
religious beliefs

c7) Johnny Parliament-Member
not credible. He just want to speak around to get elected next time.

c8) Johnny Not-Elected-Government-Official
not credible. He just wants to oppress. New religions are
traditionally oppressed by governments - the early christians were
thrown to the lions.

c9) Johnny Lawyer
not credible. Lawyers are just paid to argue, sometimes they are
paid a share only on success

c10) Johnny Judge
not credible. He just fell for the arguments of Johnny Lawyer,
Johnny Not-Elected-Government-Official, Johnny Exit-Counsellor,
Johnny Deprogrammer, Johnny Bookwriter, Johnny Journalist,
Johnny Skeptic and Johnny Ex-Member.

When I originally posted this, I asked who would be qualified to
critizize AUM, Jonestown or the Solar Temple. I did not get a response.


17. What happens when Moon dies ?

Mostly nothing. A small article in the newspapers, a long article in the
Washington Times.


18. What happens after Moon died ?

In an incredible mudslinging, his heirs will sue each other until all
the money is gone to the lawyers. The Washington Times will become a
successful supermarket tabloid. Many Moonies will go back to normal
life, returning to their families, having sleep, reading real books,
watching the real world, maybe joining local churches, etc. A few who
can't deal with reality will make their own splinter cults.


19. What is "heavenly deception" ?

Lying for Moon. Still practiced today. Even practiced on this newsgroup
by the Moonies. For it, Eric Richardson got from Mike Doughney the
"lying Moonie son of a bitch" award. He returned it by giving Mike the
"hateful small-minded person who decides they can make the rules" award.

Moon himself:
mentioned by Steve Hassan:
"If you tell a lie to make a person better it is not sin...
even God tells lies very often."
(Moon in Master Speaks, 3-16-72 pg.11)

mentioned by craigmaxim@bigfoot.com:
"So telling a lie becomes a sin if you tell it to take advantage
of a person, but IF YOU TELL A LIE to do a good thing for him
that is NOT A SIN ." (Master Speaks 3/16/72)

"Evil has DECEIVED goodness into evil. But goodness has
not been able to DECEIVE evil into goodness . Perhaps this
is why Christianity couldn't accomplish God's will bravely
until today . " (Way of God's Will)

"...Jesus in order to MAKE HIS DESCIPLES BELIEVE that the
second coming would be fulfilled right away..."
(D.P. Second Advent chapter 4)

Eric claimed that CARP would disclose its affiliation to Moon and the
UC, Mike showed that not. After that, Eric started some new arguments
that contradicted all he had said before.

Before:

In some places, they are required by the campus to do so. But in all
places, CARP has had the instruction to clearly identify themselves with
Rev. Moon and the Unification Church for as long as I have been a member,
over 15 years. Every campus I have seen CARP members working, they do.

After:

Each of the groups you have named is a legal corporate entity
with a different purpose and function and funding from the Unification
Church. It would be false to say it was the Unification Church; but the
relationship with the founder of the UC and that it was inspired by the
principles he espouses is not hidden. If you have a problem with that, too
bad.

A new argument about the deception now came up from ca347@torfree.net
(Reed Darsey):

I'm not sure if that is the same 1972 speech I read, but the example
of giving someone a diamond necklace but telling them it is glass was
used. If everyone were to give *more* than they say they are, would
the world be a better place? We already see what it is like with
people trying to give *less*.

Here an example for a lie that would use that argument. You tell
someone: "Join us for free food", while actually you are giving him free
food, a few speeches, and a religion to hang on. While this may be OK
for Moon, it is not OK for me, and I call that "heavenly deception".


Another person (Attila Mina <miat5mba@ktk.jpte.hu>) did also like it:

Ps.: I like your signature and your final quotation very much:

"If you tell a lie to make a person better it is not sin... even God
tells lies very often." (Moon in Master Speaks, 3-16-72 pg.11)

Do you know what does it mean? There are many evidents in the Bible
when God 'lies' in order to make people better. Read the story about
Ninive (book of Jonah). God foretold that Ninive would be destroyed.
Finally He did not do it. Also read Ezekiel 33:11-19. That i sone of my
favorite places in the Biblie. Well, if you are not religious (sorry, I
could not decide, but maybe you were sometimes) then think about human
freedom and responsibility.

And when someone gets out after years, and speaks out about the heavenly
deception, he might get an answer, like this by fortl@nyc.pipeline.com
(Frank Kaufmann):

When I chat with ex-members, it is NOT to defend the UC. It is
not even to deny what they say about abusive leadership. I
simply want to say, "Get a life. Be a man (woman). Say you
made a mistake and move on. Don't blame others. Don't say your
were tricked or manipulated [LET ALONE FOR YEARS!!]. Live with
what you decided and what you did. Don't blame others. Use
those years for whatever lessons there are to be learned, and
try to be smarter next time."

This attitude is called "blame the victim". But there's more: see it
from the point of view of the one who performs the scam. He does it, and
has no guilt. He thinks "if they fall for it, it's their own fault".
Cheat the victim, blame the victim. Pfew.



20. Is Moon a convicted felon ?

Yes. There were already some "problems" in the early days, but lets give
him the benefit of doubt, since it might well be possible that this was
government abuse.

Here the short version from Dennis Smith:

Let's try to secretly buy a bank, forget that it will
be against the law. Uh Oh they're on to us, ok I'll tell them
the money was all mine and had nothing to do with the church.
Uh Oh what do you mean I have to pay taxes on it. Uh Oh this
cell is real small and why does this guy keep referring to me
as his girlfriend.

The long version:

The Securities and Exchange Commission investigated allegations
that members of the Unification Movement purchased stock in the
Diplomat National Bank for the church. During the investigation
the members who had purchased stock in the bank were deposed and
stated they purchased the stock in their own names and not on
behalf of the church. Ultimately the SEC entered into a consent
decree with Unification Church International wherein they agreed
to abide by SEC regulations.

Moon got jammed up during this investigation when he admitted
the money he used to purchased the Diplomat stock was personal
and did not belong to the church. Only problem was he had not
paid tax on it. He also failed to paid tax on $50,000 with of
stock he received.

Moon was convicted in July 1982 for tax evasion, conspiracy to tax
evasion and obstruction of justice to 18 months jail and a fine of
$25,000.

According to Dennis Smith, Rev. Moon was convicted of:

1. Conspiracy to make false statements to government agencies in
violation of 18 U.S.C. 371 and 1001.

2. Conspiracy to make false statements to a federal grand jury in
violation of 18 U.S.C. 371 and 1823.

3. Conspiracy to obstruct justice in violation of 18 U.S.C. 371 and
1503.

4. Conspiracy to file false federal income tax returns in violation of
18 U.S.C. 371 and 26 U.S.C. 7206(1).

After appealing all the way up, he went to jail on 20.7.1984. Because of
good conduct, he served only 11 months in a low-security prison and 6
weeks in a half-way house. Local Moon officials claim that his cubicle
was the cleanest of 200.

Here is what Reuter said on 20.2.1985 about the conviction:

In his six-week jury trial the government said Moon had failed
to report about 112,000 dollars of interest on bank accounts in
his name, and 50,000 dollars in shares held in his name from
1973 through 1975.

An amusing side-note is that Moon was successfully prosecuted by the
same Assistant U.S. Attorney who also prosecuted Leona Helmsley:
James DeVita.

Steve Hassan <shassan@tiac.net> mentions the forgeries involved:

The government proved its case by showing cancelled checks
that the money was used only for Moon's family. The phoney
accounting records were exposed by the government as a fraud
because the watermarks on the paper showed that the paper had
not even been manufactured yet for the years that Moon claimed
his records were made. In other words, Moon was caught
conspiring to defraud the government. Michael Warder, long term
member and leader, testified that he wanted to take money
from that account to pay for church functions and was explicitly
told that it was "Father's" personal account.


21. What arguments are used about his trial ?

It is of course quite annoying that the leader is a criminal. Therefore,
Moonies try the "religious persecution" joker-card, instead of kicking
Moon out and appoint an honest man as leader.

A1: "Jesus was also convicted"

Moon has a lot of $$ to defend himself. Jesus was alone, and there
wasn't even a real justice at that time.

A2: "his case was not a criminal but a civil case." [From Laszlo Weress]

Whoa there ! No one goes to jail for civil cases. In this case it was
The People vs. Sun Myung Moon.

A3: "It was not a fair trial. He asked for a judge trial, but got
a jury trial. This was unheard of before."

Lawyers can refuse jury members. There are a lot of people who have no
opinion about Moon, simply because they don't follow the news, except
the baseball scores. It is also interesting that the Moonies have never
posted the reason why the judge refused it.

Moon has claimed he is the victim of a "Government Conspiracy". The
Judge was simply fair and did the only reasonable thing: "Trial by a
jury of your peers"

A4: "Read the book 'inquisition' by Carlton Sherwood".

What was not said is that this book was paid for by the Washington
Times. Sherwood claims that he accepted a temporary staff position,
because he "hoped to accomplish what until then no reporter had been
able to do: to penetrate the organizational and financial structure of
the Unification Church" (p. 16). In other words, he wanted to uncover
new dirt on Moon and add him to his trophy case.

This is not credible: Sherwood had a history of publishing about
religious corruption. The WT would never had hired him without getting
data about his past. What has most probably happened is that they have
provided him with more PR than anyone else - he basically became a
Moonie mouthpiece.

A review of this book (not even totally negative) by the "Christian
Research Institute" can be found at

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/crj0133a.txt (Who's computer is this?)

Here is the opinion of Dennis Smith <dsmith@Access.Digex.Com>:

I have read the book "Inquisition." I found it to be an
interesting book but I do have several concerns. There is a
tremendous amount of information about the Unification Movement
publicly available to anyone willing to take the time to locate
it. A good portion of the information is generated from
disinterested third parties. The book does not reflect any type
of analysis of the volumes of information that are available. I
am also troubled by the apparent lack of interest in the issue
by the author after the book was published. Most authors promote
their books and respond to critisim. Sherwood has never been
heard from. As far as I know he has never given an interview
about the book. Never gave a speech to any organization about
the book, and never responded to any allegations that he simply
wrote the book for the SMM and took the money and ran.

There is little evidence to suggest Sherwood did any
research on his own for the book he wrote. A review of the book
shows he does not include any of the volumes of information from
federal agencies and others that were supposedly persecuting
Moon. A reporter of Sherwood supposed stature should have
interviewed persons and collected information from as many
people and sources as possible. How could someone write a book
about such a controversial subject like Sun Myung Moon and not
interview his opponents. I have sent FOIA requests to federal
agencies to see if he had filed any FOIA requests for
information. At this point absent statements from Sherwood
himself I have been unable to determine where he got his
information.

"Frontline" reported about the book:
http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/moontranscript2.shtml (Who's computer is this?)

Narrator: One week after talking to Regnery, FRONTLINE obtained
a copy of a letter addressed to Sun Myung Moon. The letter was
written by James Gavin, a Moon aide. Gavin tells Moon he
reviewed the "overall tone and factual contents" of Inquisition
before publication and suggested revisions. Gavin adds that the
author "Mr. Sherwood has assured me that all this will be done
when the manuscript is sent to the publisher." Gavin concludes
by telling Moon, "When all of our suggestions have been
incorporated, the book will be complete and in my opinion will
make a significant impact.... In addition to silencing our
critics now, the book should be invaluable in persuading others
of our legitimacy for many years to come."

Narrator: Although he refused an on-camera interview, Carlton
Sherwood told Frontline that the Unification Movement exerted no
editorial control over his book.

More about his career:
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Carlton_Sherwood (Who's computer is this?)


A5: "It was only $7400 in withheld taxes in three years"

Andy Bacus came up with the $7400 figure, which is actually from
Sherwood's book. Interesting is that the amount of not declared money is
over $162,000, of which $112,000 is interest from $2,000,000 bank
account and $50,000 in shares. This brings up the question if US taxes
is only 4.5% ? I doubt it. Besides, another person (Damian Anderson)
said that the amount was $12,000. Seems they can't get their lies
straight.

Anyway, no one has come up with the court papers, so anything could be
claimed. It was also observed that the "conspiracy part" and the
"obstruction of justice" part was not mentioned by the Moonies first.
After it came up, Andy said that that is "no big thing".

Considering the Reuter quote, I'd say that someone is not telling the
truth.

A6: "He did not have to come back from Korea to serve a jailterm
but he did" [From Laszlo Weress]

Should we be thankful because Moon did not add another crime to his past
criminal history ?

Besides, it is also quite possible that Moon stayed because he had hoped
to win.

A7: "There were several amicus briefs by religious organisations
to the court"

Paying taxes has nothing to do with religion. Btw, one of them was the
infamous "moral majority" Jerry Falwell.

Dennis Smith <dsmith1@worldnet.att.net> on 1996/10/26:

The majority of the amici briefs filed on Moon's behalf dealt
with a single issue of the petition for certiorari before the
Supreme Court. These centered around the belief that the
Religion Clauses do not permit the jury to substitute its lay
views for the religious views of a church and its members as to
how property and authority should be allocated within the
church. For an exhaustive review of the case and amici briefs
see United States v. Sun Myung Moon: Precedent for Tax Fraud
Prosecution of Local Pastors? Southern Illinois University
School of Law, 1984, Alfred J. Sciarrino.

Two other points are worth mentioning here. Many amici briefs
support the speculative fear that the precedent of this case
would result in harassment and intimidation of churches by the
government. Time has found these fears to be without merit.

Several amici briefs were filed by petitioners with direct ties
to Sun Myung Moon and are bias. These included Senator Orrin G.
Hatch, Eugene McCarthy, Coalition for Religious Freedom, and
Christian Voice, Inc.

Dennis Smith <dsmith1@worldnet.att.net> on 1996/12/9:

Many of the amici filers were merely interested in protecting
their little piece of the pie.


A8: "He was imprisoned on tax charges that were later found by a
Senate committee chaired by Sen. Orrin Hatch to be unjust."

Irrelevant. Moon had his day in court. Senate committees don't decide
whether someone is guilty or innocent. Since Moon's theocracy hasn't
started yet, Justice / Legislative / Executive are separated.

Besides, Orrin Hatch is hardly neutral - he is a great admirer of Moon.

A9: "He was holding money in his own name, something many ministers do,
when the government never disputed that the money was used for
church purposes, yet they charged that he owed personal income
taxes of $12,000 on the money. Why not send him a bill?"

The facts are different. Dennis Smith <dsmith@Access.Digex.Com>
investigated that in an SEC investigation connected to his takeover of
the Diplomat National Bank, Moon claimed the money was his, but in the
IRS investigation, he claimed the money was church money. He couldn't
have it both ways. IMO, he could probably get away with a fine - if he
hadn't make things worse with his obstruction of justice.
(Internet post available on request)

A10: "Moon was pardoned after serving his sentence"

This argument came up by Rich Rubash. It later turned out to be an
ordinary PR lie - it was just a few religious leaders, among them Jerry
Falwell, who "pardoned" him.

A11: "Sen. Orrin Hatch and Eugene McCarthy, virtually ideological
opposites, Hatch a "conservative" Republican, McCarthy a
"liberal" Democrat, both filed Amici briefs."

[From Dennis Smith:] Let's see, we certainly have two amici brief filers
here that are bias. Hatch has been a Moon apologist for years. McCarthy
became the head of Moon's now defunct Global Economic Action Institute.
McCarthy took over for the first president, Robert B. Anderson, after he
pled guilty to tax evasion charges.

A12: "He was indicted while others who also withheld taxes were not"

This allegation, even if true, does not change that he withheld taxes.
The logic of that allegation is similar of smoking in a non-smoker's
office room, and saying that pollution on the streets is worse. If other
went away with it, then *these* people should be prosecuted.

A13: "The IRS moved against Rev. Moon not because of any so called
conspiracy, but because the anti-cult movement got certain US
politicians to pressure the IRS and other agencies to "get"
Rev. Moon"

A variation of A12, blaming Bob Dole and Donald Fraser. But Moon didn't
have to withheld taxes. The anti-cult movement didn't force him to.


22. What about George Bush Sr.?

George Bush Sr. spoke at the WfWP in Japan. WfWP officials denied that
it is a front group, and said that it was founded by Moon's wife. But in
a speech available at FACTNet (http://www.xenu.org/factnet/ (Who's computer is this?) ), Moon said
he founded the movement himself.

Moonies say that Bush was well aware what was going on: he was head of
the CIA, which implies he isn't a clueless guy. Well, the CIA is rather
clueless (see the affair on the soviet spy), and Bush also (see the
affair about "Najira"s incubators in the Gulf war).

The answer is simple and in latin: "non olet". Bush isn't the first
president who accepted "problem" money. Just remember Reagan's japanese
$2 million tour, betraying the american workers.


23. Who is Steve Hassan ?

A famous exit-counsellor and writer of the basic work ("Combatting Cult
Mind Control"). See his web page at

http://www.shassan.com/ (Who's computer is this?)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0892813113/thexenubookstore/ (Who's computer is this?)



24. What was the joke with "Merchant of Chaos" ?

"Merchant of Chaos" is an ex-scientologist from New York. In the
discussion about front groups, one Moonie suggested that we should "look
up the affiliation in an electronic database". Moonies complained that
MoC didn't post under his real name. I told that the real name was
available in the newsgroup "alt.religion.scientology", that they should
simply scan about 3000 messages (I did not tell that the name was in a
message of me and a message of MoC). Later, there was a second hint: MoC
posted an announcement for an event where he would speak about cults.
His name was on the web page in the announcement. (I didn't tell that).
But no Moonie managed to get the name. They were either too lazy or too
dumb.

Anyway, the Moonies keep whining, and I don't tell the name, and that
makes them mad. Andy pretends that MoC is a CAN recruiter - although MoC
isn't even a member of CAN.

What they don't understand is that some people really want to stay anon.

Finally, Andy found it out and told MoC's real name - Paul Grosswald.


25. Who is Andy Bacus ?

Andy Bacus claims to be a lawyer, but speaks very often with his foot in
his mouth, and has a very surprising sense of logic. My nickname for him
is Andy "I-can't-believe-it's-a-lawyer" Bacus. Of course name-calling
isn't an argument, but it adds a nice flavour to one.

Andy quote #1:

Are you aware that deprogrammer Ted Patrick is the founder
of CAN?

when asked for evidence, he asked me to prove the opposite !

Are you suggesting that Ted Patrick was *not* the founder of
CAN? If that is your position, please document your source of
that information. Who told you that? Did a representative of
CAN tell you that?

when asked for evidence again, he answered:

Are you aware that CAN's original name was "Citizen's Freedom
Foundation" before they had it legally changed? Have you read
Ted Patrick's book?

when asked for evidence again, he answered:

Yes, the co-founder is convicted felon (for cocaine possession,
kidnapping, and other charges) Ted Patrick. That, according to
Patrick and the New York Times.

when asked for the evidence one more, he answered:

How unethical it is for you to quote me so far out of context.

Let's review the history of the dialogue you purport to quote.
Originally, I stated that Ted Patrick (a man who claims to have
kidnapped and involuntarily deprogrammed hundreds of people) was
a founder of the Cult Awareness Network (CAN). I expected you
to object to that statement - perhaps asking for proof. But you
did not just object and ask for proof, you affirmatively denied
what I said was true and cynically trashed me for even
suggesting that it was.

[My part of the game was that I *never* objected. I asked for the proof.
After more blabla, here another "no evidence":]

As for the proof that Patrick was one of the founders (if not
*the* founder) of CAN, I give you the New York Times, September
2, 1974 wherein it is stated:

"The group, called the Citizen's Freedom Foundation,
was organized by Ted Patrick, who has specialized in
taking young people out of such groups, 'deprogramming'
them and returning them to their parents."

Citizen's Freedom Foundation was of course the original
corporate name of CAN before it was changed to the Cult
Awareness Network.

Well, I never asked about CFF, nor do I have the possibility to check
the existance of that newspaper. Note that Andy now has changed "the" to
"a", a first indication that he lied. Suspicious is that Andy never came
up with CAN's incorporation papers.

Anyway, after some time I had to verify this once and for all. I asked
Priscilla Coates of the LA branch of the Cult Awareness Network, and she
responded, and allowed me to use her e-mail. Here an excerpt:

Our lawyers have the minutes of the first and organizing
meeting in 1974 of Citizens Freedom Foundation. That was
the previous name of CAN. It had that name from 1974
until 1986. In 1984 and 1985, we used both names to help
people understand the name change. The minutes of that
first meeting show that Ted Patrick did appear. He
arrived late and interupted the person who was speaking.
He said he never wanted to have anything to do with any
group of parents or any organization. Then he left the
meeting. The NY Times correspondent asked one of the
organizers, one Henrietta Crampton, if Patrick had been an
influence on the decision to form a group. She said yes.

I disclosed this (without telling the source, to prevent the usual
attacks). It came out that Andy had withheld that this NY Times article
*did* mention Henrietta Crampton, and clearly said that it was *her*
opinion:

"Mrs. Crampton said that Mr. Patrick had been the prime force
in organizing the group."

This shows two things. 1. It was an opinion of Henrietta Crampton, and
was clearly stated as such. 2. Andy's definition of "founder" is only an
*opinion*. And my opinion is that if we take 10 different CAN veteran
members, we will get at least three different opinions who the prime
force was. Besides, how can someone be named as "founder" who didn't
want to be associated with it ? Here is more from Priscilla's e-mail:

CAN (CFF) was organized by families from all over the U.S.
who had become concerned about unsafe groups or as they
put it, "spiritual frauds." I wrote a whole chapter for
Anson Shupe and David Bromley in a book they edited called
"Anti-Cult Movements in Cross Cultural Perspective." My
chapter is the history of the Cult Awareness Network. The
reveiwer in the Journal for the Scientific Study of
Religion, Jeffrey S. Victor, calls my chapter *prideful*.


Andy quote #2 (after I said that Moon, a convicted felon, should judge
no one):

OK, let's explore this observation. Let's say a man (Frank)
goes out and kills someone. At the scene of the crime he plants
evidence implicating his next door neighbor, Jack. The police
later find this evidence and following a lengthy trial, Jack is
convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

Now, getting back to your statement, who would be qualified to
"judge" someone, Jack or Frank? Well, I suspect that you will
say Jack - though a convicted felon - is more qualified then
Frank. The moral of the story: a conviction does not necessarily
mean that a person is either guilty, or lacking the authority to
"judge".

Now where should you go with this bit of wisdom? To Carlton
Sherwood's book so you can look into whether Rev. Moon is Jack
or Frank.

[WARNING:
CAN / The Cult Awareness Network has been taken over by scientology]



26. What about those mass marriages ?

It is very wrong to call these a marriage, even if the the girls look
like brides, for two reasons:

- According to Damian Anderson, more than half of the 400,000 couples
were already married

- The technical term is "blessing" and "pledge". Moon blesses them,
and the couple pledge to live according to Moon's rules. In the
german text is alsolutely nothing about "I take you as my spouse".
So it is less a bond between spouses, more a bond between a couple
and Moon's organisation.

Here is the english text of the "blessing", posted by Eric Richardson.
Message-ID: <richa011-1702961718370001@dialup-2-140.gw.umn.edu>

Wedding Vows

1) Do you, as mature men and women who are to consummate the
ideal of the creation of God, pledge to become an eternal
husband and wife?
2) Do you pledge to become a true husband and wife, and raise
your children to live up to the Will of God, and educate them
to become responsible leaders in front of the Unification
Famity, all mankind, and Almighty God ?
3) Do you pledge that, centering upon True Parents, you will
inherit the tradition of the Unification Family, and pass
this proud tradition down to the future generations of the
Unification Family and to mankind?
4) Do you pledge that, centering upon the ideal of creation, you
will inherit the Will of the True Parents, loving the people
of the world as God and True Parents do, and ultimately
consummate the ideal family which is the building block
of the Kingdom of God on earth and in heaven ?

You will notice that while (1) is just religious, but (2), (3), (4)
deals with Moonie concepts: the "Unification Family" (the Moonies) and
the "True Parents" (Moon and his wife).

Another version of the pledge can be found here:
http://www.unification.net/misc/fampledge.html (Who's computer is this?)


It should also be mentioned that when Moon "matches" couples, that these
do not know each other, are sometimes of different continents, and
sometimes cannot attend the "blessing". I personally saw on TV a cute
russian girl holding a photo of her partner at a blessing.

Moon claims to be a "psychic". He matches the people by looking at the
photos.

This brings of course the usual risk, i.e. that people live unhappily
together, because they didn't get to know each other before. That the
divorce rate isn't enormous is because the couple is busy with Moonie
activities most of the time so that they don't come to have disputes.

Before the blessing ceremony comes the "holy wine ceremony", in which
the partners offer each other a liquid that contains 21 different
substances, including *actual blood* from Moon and his wife. This
ceremony should tighten the "adoption" of the couples. On big events it
is only performed by a representative bride.

Early members once had a ceremony involving diluting Ms. Moon's milk in
cow milk at the time their first child Je-Jin was born. As you imagine,
their are technical reasons preventing this to be a regular ceremony,
and that source has now dried up anyway :-)

[Gandow p. 66]
[Note that sources are sometimes only for a part of the paragraph]



27. What about sex ?

It is somewhat confusing, because I have to pull the details slowly out
of the Moonie noses. As I understand it, there should be no sex before
marriage / blessing. After that, there is again no sex, for a
"separation period". It is unclear whether the couples live together at
that time or not. Andy Bacus (and some critical literature) claim that
this period is shortened for older couples. Andy brought an example of a
30 year old couple who had to be separated for 40 days only. More
details were not available, like who decides according to what rules.

A russian Moonie girl (Olga Sachina) said on SPIEGEL TV that they have
to wait three years.

An ex-Moonie woman said on one german TV show that they had to *ask*
their superiors, that they had to beg and threaten to get the permission
to start sex.

And this is confirmed by Moon himself:

REV. MOON TESTIFIES

The Boston Globe
Thursday, May 27, 1982

Under the threat of being jailed for contempt, Rev. Sun
Myung Moon testified yesterday that he and other Unification
Church leaders decide which members can marry and when
they can have sex. "It is in accordance with the principles of
our religion," he testified in federal court at the civil trial
of a "deprogrammer" who allegedly abducted a church member.

(The PR loss for the Moonies was so big that two days later they
dismissed their lawsuit (against Galen Kelly) with prejudice.)

At the end of the separation period comes the three-day ceremony:
http://www.unification.net/1978/780520_2.html (Who's computer is this?)

"Your position of meeting as husband and wife, on the first and
second nights, will be with the wife in the upper position and
her husband in the lower position. This represents formation
and growth. The fallen action came at the top of growth stage
position. However, on the third night, which represents
perfection, there should be restoration of dominion. Adam
should restore dominion, so the husband is in the upper and the
woman in the lower position."

Another Moon quote with supports his view on man and woman in a document
not contested by Moonies:

DP, p 25 and 26:
"God created the woman Eve as an object ...
from Adam, who was the subject."


28. Scientology and the UC as bedfellows - it this for real ?

Yes. There have a common event called "Conference on Religious Freedom
and Human Rights" which discusses "minority religions". [Gandow p.154]

In France they founded a organisation called FIREPHIM. The problem is
that anti "Le Pen" (a french right wing politician) activists got angry
and burned their stuff at an anti-racist demonstration. Today, FIREPHIM
doesn't exist any more, after the Moonies left.

You can also notice that some of their arguments seem to come from
"Freedom Magazine" (like that CAN was founded by Ted Patrick) or from
the infamous "CAN reform group". The Moonies also participated together
with the Larouchies in the "Cynthia Kisser topless dancer" smear attack
from 1992, which came from scientology. They had to apologize in 1995.

Andy Bacus confirmed an anonymous allegation that he had a phone call
with he has had conversations with Sue Taylor and with John Carmichael.



29. What about the M16 gun plant ?

I don't have details yet. The Moonie line is:

- that they only manufactured a spring
- that they are required to by the Korean government
- that the north Korean government is an agressor
- that it is legal
- that it is ethical
- that Moses, Jesus and Mohammed also had weapons
- that peace thru strength is wise

Steve Hassan tried to get more information under the FOIA act, but
failed.

It is also interesting that the Moonies try to avoid the point that this
is a business. A profitable business. No information has been posted
that the weapons are used only in Korea. No information has been posted
that Moonie weapons have a label "kill only North-Koreans".

Btw, you don't *have* to use an M16. You can also use the Kahr K9 to
kill your ennemies - it is manufactured by Saeilo, a moonie company run
by Moon's son Kook Jin ("Justin Moon"). Here a review by William
Barwell:

The Kahr is a small 9mm pistol about the size of a Walther
PPK/S, a bit bigger but thicker and heavier. It holds 10
rounds. It is well built and not particularly cheap. It is
considered a good quality 9mm with concealable qualities.
I have handled one at a gun show and consider it too heavy
for a good concealed carry, but in cooler climates it would
be OK for that. It has a good reputation as a reliable and
accurate small pistol.
It's main draw is that it is not much bigger than the PPK/S
but is a a 9mm semiauto.
It is an all metal gun which makes it a bit unusual in that
most small pistols nowadays are going to the polymer frame
system most notably employeed by Glock.

More guns by Tongil:
http://web.archive.org/web/19980707031815/http://www.tongil.co.kr/english/d22c.htm (Who's computer is this?)

A mine launching system:
http://www.tongil.co.kr/12.English/02.product/002/product232.htm (Who's computer is this?)


30. What about the "Master Speaks" quotes ?

"Master Speaks" were a series of tapes by Moon. Steve Hassan owns a
collection of english translations / transcripts. They are great to show
his true face, and to show what an evil guy he is. Example:

"The whole world is in my hand, and I will conquer and
subjugate the world." [MS 17.5.73]

For good reason these tapes are no longer distributed. The official
reason is that the translations were poor, and that Steve Hassan's
quoting of it (see above) is out of context. But they have always failed
to provide the context. Instead, Andy has threatened to sue Steve Hassan
for libel (and not for copyright violations, as the scientologists tried
with the Washington Post).



31. Who wrote the "divine principle" ?

Technically spoken, no one, because it is only an "introduction to the
yet-to-come-real-thing":

The Divine Principle revealed in this book is only part of the
new truth. We have recorded here what Sun Myung Moon's disciples
have hitherto heard and witnessed. We believe with happy
expectation that, as time goes on, deeper parts of the truth
will be continually revealed. It is our earnest prayer that the
light of truth will quickly fill the earth.

According to Damian Anderson:

For your information, Rev. Moon taught his early disciples the
Divine Principle, and Rev. Hyo Won Eu wrote them down and
Rev. Moon checked over his work at each step. So, you may say
that it was co-written by the two men, but the ideas were Rev.
Moon's. You may ask why he did not write it himself, and I
would have to say that I don't know.

Some detractors claim that the DP was just a plagiarism of the books
"Divine basic principles" and "Theology of the holy spirit" by Kim
Baek-Moon, who had his own religious community in Korea. Anyway, one
part seems to be original:

With the fullness of time, God has sent His messenger to resolve
the fundamental questions of life and the universe. His name is
Sun Myung Moon.


[Gandow p. 23 and 38 on the detractors part]


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33. What about that movie ?

Moon produced a movie: Inchon, in 1982. It flopped. Here the Leonard
Maltin review from CINEMANIA:

Empty-headed Korean war epic produced by Rev. Sung Myung
Moon's Unification Church. Olivier looks like a wax museum
figure in his makeup as Gen. Douglas MacArthur.
Laughable script punctuated by epic-scale battle scenes.

Parade Magazine:

the biggest loser at the box office in America was Inchon,
produced by the Rev. Sung Myung Moon's Unification Church
and starring the late Laurence Olivier, who didn't know what
the film was all about except that he was being paid $1 million
to play Gen. Douglas MacArthur.

Inchon lost about $44 million and stimulated such criticisms as:

"The worst move ever made...a turkey the size of
Godzilla" (Jack Kroll, Newsweek);

"Quite possibly the worst film ever made...stupefyingly
incompetent" (Peter Rainier, Los Angeles Herald Examiner);

"As military spectacles go, one of the sorriest in military
history" (Richard Schickel, Time).


See also here:
http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/m-8a.html (Who's computer is this?)



34. What is "The driving principle" ?

Another one of Tilman's rather sick joke-words for topics that are
dead-serious: Moonie car behaviour.

a) Steve Hassan
"I drove like a model Moonie, fearless, excessive, having faith
that I was doing God's will and believing that the spirit world
would protect me. Common sense rules of driving safely did not
pertain."

The result: on April 23, 1976 he had a near fatal car crash. Steve
had not slept for two days. He did sleep, and as he woke up, he saw
the tail lights of a truck. It was too late. The rescue team had
to peel him out with the can-opener.

"The week of my accident, the insurance adjuster told me that the
Unification Church was having three major automotive accidents
a week."

Luckily, this allowed him to get back to his family, who took the
opportunity to "deprogram" him.

b) Won-seok Lee
January 5, 1992, this guy drove an overcrowded Moonie van, injuring
22 and killing David Ang, 21. Even more sad is that David Ang
was *born* into the cult - 21 years of service for the Moon empire.
His parents are still in the cult, which makes me even more sad.

(Moonie posters deny that they were on a fund raising, they say
that they came from the movies and the road was icy)
(His sister denies that the passengers were an MFT team, and insists
that the people in the van were just a group of UC friends going to a
movie)

c) Hyo Jin Nim (Moon's 1st son - thanks peegee@li.net for this info !)
Arrested for drunk driving in 1993 - IMO a very serious and
absolutely *irresponsible* attitude.

Arrested again in Dec 1995 - for driving without a license. The
Westchester County police had conducted a sting operation:
They told over a hundred people with drunk driving convictions
that they had to meet with their parole officers. Most arrived
on foot, by public transportation, or had a friend drive them.
But about 15 people were arrogant enough to actually DRIVE to
and from their meeting with their parole officer, even though
their licenses were suspended or revoked!

Went to jail on 12.11.1997, for having accumulated too many
concurrent probations.

d) Heung Jin Nim, Moon's 2nd son, died in Poughkeepsie in 1984 at
age 17 when the car he was driving collided with a truck.

Prof. Frederick Sontag: "He had a fancy sports car and was
driving too fast"

e) One singaporean was killed, two injured on a trip of the (banned)
Unification Church.
http://www.xenu.org/factnet/AFF/FILES/CO0891/CO0891AC.TXT (Who's computer is this?)

f) "I was in N.Y. to visit the "False Family" and slept in their
"old" mansion Belvedeer overnight ! While there I talked with Moon's
limo driver . He told me that they were "required" to get him from
point A to point B as quickly as possible, and regularly drove over
100 mph to do so ! I asked about their driving records (tickets).
He said Moon uses a driver until they lose their liscences for
speeding and just gets a new driver after that. For this reason their
is a large turnover of drivers for him!"
(from craigmaxim@bigfoot.com)

g) "I left after being Director of Transportation for the 43rd St.
Center in Manhattan in 1978 also. I was also Mr. Sudo and
Mr. Sawada's personal driver. I totaled Mr. Kamayama's Volvo on my
way to Harvard's Divinity Circle driving a newly blessed spouse and
another UC divinity student. No one got hurt luckily."
(from Danny H <djdidaha@prodigy.net>; the cause was a risky
lane change)

h) "Peter Kim and Hyo Jin sat in the front of the blue Mercedes.
I sat alone in the back. They spoke in English for the 1100 mile trip
down the East Coast. My sense of isolation was complete."
(From Nansook Hong in her book)

i) Rev. Joon Sung Kim speaking about the Jardim project:
"The police are usually quite strict; there is a 80 km speed limit.
If I drive Father, I have to go pretty fast, as fast as 150 km per
hour and I don’t even have a license. When they catch me, they let me
go, because they know Father is doing great things for their
country."

http://www.tparents.org/library/unification/publications/unews/unws9901/kim%2Djardim.htm (Who's computer is this?)


37. <removed because I am no longer following the newsgroup regularly>


38. Any books ?

In the shadows of the Moons, by Nansook Hong (ex-wife of Hyo Jin,
Sun Myung Moon's eldest son)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316348163/thexenubookstore/ (Who's computer is this?)


From av282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. V. Hunt):

Moonstruck: a Memoir of My Life in a Cult. Wood, Allen Tate with
Jack Vitek. William Morrow, New York. 1979. (Read for parallels
between the Moonie cult and Scientology; these two cults are more
alike than different, despite very different philosophical ideas.)

Moonwebs: Journey into the Mind of a Cult. Freed, Josh. Dorset,
Toronto. 1980. ISBN: 0-88893-020-8 paper, 0-88893-018-6 hardback.

Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church: an In-Depth Investigation
of the Man and the Movement. Sontag, Frederick. Abingdon, Nashville.
1977.

Combatting Cult Mind Control. Hassan, Steven. Park Street Press,
Rochester, Vermont. 1988. c. 1988, 1990 Steven Hassan. ISBN:
0-89281-243-5 hardback, 0-89281-311-3
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0892813113/thexenubookstore/ (Who's computer is this?)


39. Humour

"A Moonie wedding foto is to marriage
what a cold shower is to sex"

(Ellen Goodman in the Boston Globe)


"I would be willing to bet, Tilman
that I have more sex than you."

(Unification Church member Tim Elder on the internet)


"CAUSA nostra"

(Found somewhere on the web)



40. What about the Holy Handkerchiefs?

The husband gets two Holy Handkerchiefs that have to be used in the
marriage ceremony. They are briefly mentioned at
http://www.unification.net/tradition/tt1-21.html. (Who's computer is this?) Obviously, they are
sacred. You cannot have your 3-day ceremony without.

The answer from Craig Maxim <craigmaxim@bigfoot.com> (who has it
second-hand, but it was confirmed by another former moonie):

The Holy Hankies are soiled with the Holy Wine (which contains Moon's
blood, according to the church). They are prayed over and then given to
the blessed couple for use in the three day ceremony.

The couple is to wash using the hankies alot of times before sex.
I believe it is 7 times. They have to pray certain prayers they are
given with each washing. All 7 washings are consecutive. Only then
do they have sex. This is repeated for each of the three days.
So there would be 21 washings in three days.

Sex is with the woman on top for the first two days and then the man
on top for the third day. This symbolizes man retaking his position over
the woman. The woman is on top twice because, according to Moon
Eve had sex with Lucifer the Archangel first and then with Adam second.
So the woman on top twice symbolizes these two "fallen" sexual acts
of Eve, where she was dominate. The third, of course is the man putting
the woman back in her place (no one knows what position Moon used when
he cheated on Hak Ja Han)

Anyway, these hankies are then never used again and are buried at
death with the blessed spouse. You are not supposed to lose these
holy hankies, and I don't believe you get another one if you do .

So to sum it up: Moonies drink Moon's blood when they get married,
and then wash with Moon's blood before sex.

The ceremony is apparently no longer secret. Since 11.6.1999, it is
available at
http://www.tparents.org/library/unification/topics/traditn/3%2Ddayceremony.htm (Who's computer is this?)



41. Is there a place for love in the Moon organisation?

No. http://www.unification.net/bif/bif-4-1.html#8 (Who's computer is this?)

"LOVE AFFAIRS ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT ALLOWED"

Freely having love affairs is absolutely not allowed. It is not even
allowed for unmarried people to shake hands with a person of the
opposite sex, because "because the electricity of love flows
through holding hands".


50. Where can I get information on the internet ?


Unification Home Page, with texts in nine languages and links:
http://www.unification.net/ (Who's computer is this?)

Steve Hassan, ex-Moonie and exit-counselor
http://www.shassan.com/ (Who's computer is this?)

Ingo Michehl, ex-Moonie
http://www.channel1.com/users/ingo/ (Who's computer is this?)
http://www.trancenet.org/moonism/ (Who's computer is this?)

Allen Tate Wood, ex-Moonie
http://pw1.netcom.com/~tate21/ (Who's computer is this?)

Napa Sentinel multi-part series on the Moonies
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/1earth4.html (Who's computer is this?)

You can also search http://google.com (Who's computer is this?) for the search string

"Sun Myung Moon" and "cult"

in the advanced search form to find more sites.


51. Where can I get information off the internet ?

HSA-UWC USA National HQ
4 West 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036
(212)997-0050
("Holy Spirit Association for the Unification for World Christianity" is
the name of the religious arm of the organisation. Get your local
affiliate at http://www.unification.net/misc/uc_directory.html (Who's computer is this?) )

[WARNING:
CAN / The Cult Awareness Network has been taken over by scientology]

American Family Foundation (AFF)
P.O. Box 2265
Bonita Springs, FL 33959
Tel: (941) 514-3081
Fax: (941) 514-3451
e-mail AFF@worldnet.att.net
http://www.csj.org (Who's computer is this?)



--
Tilman Hausherr ** Inventor of the "Driving Principle" **
tilman@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/faq-you/moonies.txt (Who's computer is this?)

"I do not know about outside world"
(wife of Washington Times president to a reporter)